tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4407860231382967590.post1637516629563644916..comments2023-06-06T04:54:53.829-08:00Comments on Divine Plea: Raid MechanicsAdgamorixhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07642665863641484225noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4407860231382967590.post-5257548610215056012010-01-26T13:04:47.359-09:002010-01-26T13:04:47.359-09:00I've noticed that certain fights tends to be t...I've noticed that certain fights tends to be the stopping blocks for guilds and they're usually the ones that can't be brute-forced, the ones that require a greater amount of raid coordination and awareness.<br /><br />I finally did Blood Princes last night and it was a blast. Sure I was running around like a moonkin with her head cut off, but I can't remember a recent boss fight where I had to be so alert and yet felt so in control. I just loved it.<br /><br />But at the same time I can see how a raid that can't be bothered to learn the fight will fail again and again. I'm not on a very progressed server, so the majority of guilds haven't down Blood Princes yet (10 or 25), let alone the Plagueworks.<br /><br />I like the fights that make me feel like a good player, not just a good dps, and Blood Princes is definitely one of them.Hanahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12020803566446071455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4407860231382967590.post-58352744916282008392010-01-26T08:41:50.522-09:002010-01-26T08:41:50.522-09:00@RM - I'm not complaining that I wasn't pi...@RM - I'm not complaining that I wasn't picked for that particular raid. I knew what they were after, and I've done the same. I only used it as an example because I've been in many PUGs (long before the weekly raids) where someone died on Patch, or any other boss, because they didn't understand the mechanics of the fight. I certainly don't hold it against them for wanting someone with 50k (though when the raid folds because you can't find one...).<br /><br />Look at your average PUG which fails on Marrowgar because they don't understand the killing of spikes is > killing Marrowgar - or that getting out of his Bone Storm is > that one second cast you'll get off. <br /><br />Players have been able to brute force through content for a while now - and I'm really hoping the Frost Wing kicks us in the teeth.Adgamorixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07642665863641484225noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4407860231382967590.post-86601040636833778112010-01-26T08:27:28.539-09:002010-01-26T08:27:28.539-09:00Divine Plea I sympathize with your post, and I not...Divine Plea I sympathize with your post, and I note that your example of Patchwork was merely a focus aid in discussion.<br /><br />The Renaissance Man excellent counterpoint as well.Radzwehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912667035234512198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4407860231382967590.post-36565126773716237902010-01-26T03:02:17.561-09:002010-01-26T03:02:17.561-09:00I think the biggest misunderstanding is not the ra...I think the biggest misunderstanding is not the raid leader's grasp of mechanics. The fact that he knows that health, not threat, is what prompts the hatefuls shows he knows all he needs to know about the mechanics of a remarkable simple fight.<br /><br />The lack of understanding lies with you, and your grasp of the capabilities and motivations of your typical pug raid for the weekly.<br /><br />First, the capabilities. It's a pug for patchwerk, the epitomy of the tank and spank. I'd be willing to bet that they probably weren't using vent. Communication is very poor. Hell, either corraling everyone into vent, or typing out the plan you listed, in order to get people to understand the hoops they'd need to jump through in order to deal with the presence of your tank would almost certainly take more time than telling you no and finding a new tank. And that's assuming that people are willing to pay attention to said plan, which, it being a pug for patchwerk, is highly unlikely. <br /><br />As for the motivations, their motivations are the same as yours are when you do the daily on your paladin. They want frost. They don't want to jump through a bunch of hoops making things much more complicated then they really need to be to accomodate someone's desire for some achievement, or to carry someone's undergeared alt in a vital position on a fight that's based pretty much solely on gear. I think you mistook them for people who cared.<br /><br />Here's the fact of the matter. Standards are for guilds. If you want to do the weekly on your undergeared alt, get your guild to carry you. You infringe upon the likelyhood of sucess for a guild run in a much smaller manner than you do of a trade chat pug. Expecting a quality group with high standards out of a trade chat pug for patchwerk is like expecting a tornado to blow through a junkyard and assemble a flawlessly functioning Rolex. It might happen, but don't hold your breath for it.The Renaissance Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15218269024132171600noreply@blogger.com