Tuesday, September 6, 2011

Ask Mr. Robot - What are you doing?

I love Ask Mr. Robot.  I really do.  It doesn’t matter that I’ve spent thousands in reforgeing my gear, or that I’ve swapped out gems/chants just to please that little optimize button.  No, where I scratch my head is how the stat weights actually are computed.  Now normally I have one simple rule for doing my reforge.  Hit to 17% > Haste > Mastery > Crit.  That’s it.  It’s really similar to my standard Paladin reforging.  Haste > Mastery > Crit.  Sure, I’ve played with heavy Mastery builds, or looked at high crit builds, but once I find something that works, I usually stick with it.

Mr. Robot throws that right into the frigging blender.

Now I will admit that it’s a bit more of a challenge with a DPS than the Pally.  Keeping that 17% hit mark is a fine dancing game, and I’ve probably reforged my Darkmoon card two dozen times since starting in Firelands.  It’s just so much mastery that can be swapped out, it’s a big bump.  With the Pally it’s generally look at a piece of gear.  If Haste = 0, reforge something to haste, otherwise, leave it alone. 

Here’s where I run into the /headbang moments with my lock. 

See, I regularly raid with two specs, Demo and Affliction.  Personally I like the feel of Affliction better, but some fights (H-Rhy and Rag right now) require that I be Demo for one reason or another.  For Rhy it’s the awesome AoE, and for Rag it’s the fact that without being Demo, I have exactly zero stuns for the sons.  OK, so that’s fine, but where Mr. Robot throws me a wrench is that even though both builds value Haste > Mastery > Crit (according to Mr. Robot), they value them at different rates.  So in one build I might be told to reforge 3 pieces, then I’ll log out as Demo and be told that 9 pieces need to be swapped.  I “KNOW” that the plus/minus is minimal at best between the two, but I often forget that I’m logged out as Demo instead of Aff.  It’s just mind boggling that there is such a difference, when ranking wise the stats are the same – they just have different values.

After more than one trip to the loan sharks to pay for my reforge, I pay a bit closer attention to how I’m logged out before getting the Robot’s opinion.  Personally I find the tool to be invaluable for getting me as close to the hit cap without going over – and completely irritating when I’m not paying 100% attention.

6 comments:

  1. Mr. Robot thinks you are a very smart person for using his site. You will be offered protection during the Robot Apocalypse.

    For your issue with trying to optimize a set of gear for both Affliction and Demonology... the main issue is that the stat priority for Demonology is really more like Mastery > Haste > Crit. There is a soft cap on Haste at 25% in our default stat weights, which is pretty easily obtainable in raid gear. So, the stat weights chart shows haste > mastery > crit - but that is before the soft cap.

    Our testing has shown that you can get a DPS increase by favoring Mastery for Demonology, but it's not going to be HUGE. If you use Affliction most of the time, I would say just stick with your gear being optimized for Affliction and you will still do fine on the couple of fights you go Demon for.

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  2. Actually, you could probably bump up the weight on Mastery for affliction slightly, since right now we have mastery = crit for affliction. By bumping it up a little, you'll get better results with Demonology and probably only very slightly weaker results with Affliction.

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  3. Thanks for the tips, I'll try that.

    Any chance of getting proection from the Zombies as well?

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  4. Sounds similar to what mage was like when I was still raiding...something like

    If haste>1500 and crit<1200 crit>haste>mastery except on tuesdays, or if you had chicken for dinner the night before, then it was haste>mastery>crit

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  6. I pretty much use this thread now that I raid warlock too.

    http://elitistjerks.com/f80/t110222-simulationcraft_warlocks_cataclysm_edition/

    And for stat weights I make my own. Using the sim they have already done for you http://www.simulationcraft.org/420/Warlock.html

    That being said Impending Doom really pisses me off. Along with not being able to always depend on how fast the end of the fight goes. I often find myself having to hold chalice/meta/demonsoul instead of using it past 30-40%ish or I may get caught not being able to use it and/or summon Doomguard during burn phase.

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